So it's been a while but here is a small update. About a month and a half ago, I added a rear rack and a folding wire basket to the folding bike. I immediately noticed that the bike drove like a pig once I added it, but didn't think too much of it. A few days ago, I took off the rack and I was shocked. What was a twitchy big rig suddenly turned into a fighter jet. I'm not exaggerating, acceleration, control in and out of turns, heavy leans, all felt like I had complete control. I could finally get the bike to do exactly what I wanted it to, it was like riding an entirely different bike. I'm not too happy about losing the cargo/carrying capacity but I think I'm willing to make the sacrifice for the sheer fun I had once I got rid of the dead weight.
So anyway, don't bother with a rack on the downtube nova, it kills the fun of the ride. You lose out on the steering control you get with the smaller wheelbase and 20" tires.
Also, on the topic of updates to the Nova, the first set of rims I ordered were sewups and no good because a tubular 20" tire is near $100 a tire and like hell I'm spending that much. A shame really, 'cause the rims are nice.
I did want a new front wheel to replace the terrible stock wheel so i got the cheapest laced rim on amazon with nuts instead of QR levers. The quality shows. The hub that came with the sew-ups spun great and had little friction. The hub on the amazon wheel is a little better than the stock nova hub, but a step up from crap is still a foot in a pile of manure. The tire I used for the new wheel is a Kojack and it seems much more resistant to glass on the road. There are a lot of broken bottles on my route and it helps my peace of mind. I still check my tires after every ride I see glass on, so far so good.
Monday, May 14, 2012
Sunday, March 25, 2012
Downtube's tire
I'm still waiting for my new rims, but I wanted to get back on the road, so I patched the front tire yesterday. Turns out I hit a patch of orange glass and a piece went right through the tread and took out the tube. I hope my new Kojak's race-guard is more puncture proof. I'm surprised I didn't loose all my air while still on the bike. The patch was easy and I put a second patch on the tire itself as a makeshift boot.
While I was at it, I added the rack and one of the baskets I ordered. I took a trip to trader joes with the basket and biked back to school. The bike handled like a pig due to the added unbalanced weight. and the steel rack and folding basket is easy to feel when you pick it up. The rack does make carrying it considerably easier, so it's a pretty much of a tradeoff. I'll post more about the rack and how it went on in a later post when I have some new pictures.
While I was at it, I added the rack and one of the baskets I ordered. I took a trip to trader joes with the basket and biked back to school. The bike handled like a pig due to the added unbalanced weight. and the steel rack and folding basket is easy to feel when you pick it up. The rack does make carrying it considerably easier, so it's a pretty much of a tradeoff. I'll post more about the rack and how it went on in a later post when I have some new pictures.
Friday, March 16, 2012
Nova Update
This morning on a quick 1 mile commute, the bike's front tire got a flat. I'm not sure of the cause because I didn't do a repair at the time, but the hole was in the center of the tread so I don't think it was a pinch. The air seemed to be leaking through the tire because I could hear it while riding the last 200m to the front door of my house and saw the water bubbling on the tire's surface.
And that there ends the life of the first tube. Good thing I bought a bunch of spare tubes. When the new front wheel arrives, I'll throw on the kojak I bought and one of the new tubes.
And that there ends the life of the first tube. Good thing I bought a bunch of spare tubes. When the new front wheel arrives, I'll throw on the kojak I bought and one of the new tubes.
Monday, March 12, 2012
DIY Fenders
So here is a little tidbit for all of you watching the Downtube Nova review:
I made myself a rear fender because a set of plastic fenders from my LBS would set me back $44 and that is just silly. So for $6.99 worth of aluminium flat stock and $6.99 for a spool of 14guage steel wire and about 2 hours total time and labor including design and procurement of the materials, I now have a spiffy new rear fender.
They turned out to be very useful because it's been raining all weekend and I biked from my house in the rain today.
I think they turned out pretty nice.
I'm planning on adding an etched design on the fender. Leaves, flames, dots, something pretty.
The little Nova already attracts stares, but I already had someone compliment me on them today. Pimp my ride-understated edition!
I made an instructables:
http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Bike-Fenders/?ALLSTEPS
Anyway, what you really want to see, pictures:
Thursday, March 8, 2012
Quick Update on the Downtube Nova's hinge
A few days ago, I rode about 3/4 of a mile with the hinge unlocked. The Dahon hinge was designed well and didn't open on me during the ride. I didn't even find out till after I got back and was folding it away.
Wednesday, February 22, 2012
2011(?) Downtube Nova - work in progress
So here is the promised Downtube Nova overview.
When I was buying the bike, I had a lot of trouble finding good reviews and critiques about the bike. A handful of blogs and some bike forums about conversions supplied me with most of what I know about the bike. I figured I would help others by compiling my research because the specs for the bike on downtube are inaccurate or unhelpful. It's now my main get-around bike so I will be racking up some considerable time (for me) on it.
I'll put a comprehensive list at the end of the post, but I want the bulk of the page devoted to my feelings about the bike and what I think rather than a clinical listing of cheap parts.
Unboxing and first impressions:
Well, the box was pretty big. They ship the Nova in a folded state with almost everything ready to ride. There is a substantial amount of Styrofoam and cardboard padding, between the box and frame. However, there wasn't enough padding where frame met frame, leading to some paint damage.
There was a lot of unwrapping, but once you get the frame out of the box and wrapping, it looks pretty sweet. On the hinge, there is a black plastic cover to protect the linkage. I tried to unfold it without removing it, and that didn't go so well. It does its job.
Besides the bike, there was a piece of velcro (hook and hoop fastener) to keep the bike folded together, a manual and bad instructions, and a piece of black plastic with 2 clips. One of the clips was broken and it was pretty warped to boot. Anyway, I don't use it and I don't need it.
Doing a quick once over, I went through the bolts, tightening what I could find. I also reseated the wheels in the dropouts; factory ships them out with the wheels about 1/2 a cm out of the drops.
Lifting the bike, you get the feeling it is really light. It isn't that light, but the size and compactness deceives. The tubes have a bit of machine-grit that should be wiped away and the headset is just a little off. The instructions advise aligning the headset, but I found there wasn't a whole lot of adjustment possible.
The handlebar hinge looks pretty sturdy. Although it looks like plastic, the entire hinge is cast aluminium or steel. The only plastic is the twist lever for locking the hinge down.
Components:
Out of the box, the wheels are out of true. Lateral true is pretty out of shape but the radial true is something nasty. I'll need to get that looked at.
The shimano shifter is a SIS indexed 7 speed twist grip shifter. Coming from a SRAM trigger type shifter on my Monona, I was a bit disappointed by the shifter. Don't get me wrong, it shifts just fine. it's just that I'm used to the convenience of not twisting my wrists and trying to count/feel out each detent as I shift. That being said, I have had no problems with slippage. When going through 3 or 4 gears at a time, there is the expected chain jerk, but nothing more and I never lose power. Sometimes it is quite violent and my feel can slip off, but it's worse on my Monona so that is neither here nor there.
The rear cog is a Shimano MF-TZ07 14-28 freewheel. Being a freewheel, replacement freewheels that increase gearing to a reasonable range are hard to find. There are some vintage and a few new 11-(30,32,34) hubs on ebay by some Chinese manufacturer. At $30 not including shipping, they are considerably cheaper than buying or building a new 20" cassette wheel.
As it is, the gearing leaves a large gap on either side of the performance scale. It cannot handle the steep hills around my school very well in either direction. Uphill, you really have to fight to keep moving. It could be a lot worse, but I wish the largest was a 30 or 32. Downhill, it maxes out at ~18 mph. Beyond that and you are just spinning out. The most I have gone was 25mph, which also happens to be the speed limit for cars on residential streets in the US. At that speed, the bike seems to hold together just fine. Nothing that shouldn't be moving was moving and I didn't notice any rattling or strange noises. It actually handled the downhill speeds a little better than the monona as far as steering and frame flex. I haven't taken it down a really long grade yet so I'll report on that when I do.
Frame and other parts:
The stock seat itself is pretty nasty. It's pretty thick foam and you sort of sink in a bit. I think a seat post or seat with suspension would be a good upgrade to help with the rough ride.
When not in use, the seat post can be lowered into the seat tube, which is open at the bottom. When fully lowered and only the reflector on the tube, it stocks out of the bottom by a few inches. Once you add a post-rack or lights or lock holder, you probably won't be lowering it it much. It doesn't do much for the footprint and makes getting it ready to ride all the longer. I usually don't bother folding the handlebars either. Since I added the endbars, the fold is a bit precarious. If space is really at a premium, the lowered seat combined with the folded handles drops the height of the folded bike to about 60cm or about 24". That's shorter than most full sized bike tires.
As you can see, I got the green version. The paint job is pretty smooth without major bubbles or rough spots. It does damage easily though, which is another complain I found online. I'm going to have to get some clear nail polish to touch the damaged spots up and when the rainy season is over, I'll probably wax it. It is an aluminium frame, but I don't want the nice green to start flaking off everywhere.
As Downtube lists on their product listing, there is a braze-on derailleur mount on the seat tube above the cranks. Under the bottom bracket, there are populated braze-on cable mounts for the rear brake, and the rear derailleur, and an empty braze on set for the front derailleur cables. Good foresight on Downtube's part.
A close look at the forks shows that the rear dropouts can support a disc brake as can be seen here, although it seems like it needs a machined adapter plate. The front fork however does not have the pair of mounts discs seem to need as shown here and I'm not sure about the fork strength.
As a heads up, the Nova spec site, http://downtubesg.blogspot.com/, lists the rear hub to be 130mm, standard road bike spacing. However, the rear is actually 135mm, standard mountain bike spacing. I confirmed the original report from here (Post #3).
This was also confirmed by an email from Dr. Yan in 2012
Got a quick reply from Dr. Yan:http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-575616-p-5.html
1) What is the rear spacing of the frame? (126mm / 130mm /135mm)
we have had 130's and 135's the latest ones should be 135's
2) What is the spacing of the front fork? (74mm / 80mm / 100mm)
100
3) What is the width and threading of the bottom bracket?
68x114 (as I recall)
4) What is the head set size? 1” or 1 1/8”
1 1/8"
5) What is the size of the seat post?
550mm (L) 30.4mm (D)
6) Is there touchup paint available for the bikes?
No
7) Are there any geometry specs that can be found? (effective top tube length, etc..)
We do not have them, however it is a Dahon licensed frame, hence you can get the info from them
Ride impressions:
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The stock tubes need to be carefully monitored. It has been a little over 2 weeks, and it has already dropped 6 PSI or so. I recently bought new tubes and a single Schwalbe kojack tire for when I upgrade the wheels.
We have seen a lot of rain these past few days and I really need to get fenders at some point. Every night, the bike is dripping wet and splattered with mud.
Upgrade Tree:
Apart from hard to find 20" fenders, the upgrade tree is as follows:
2-New rear wheel build with a 7 speed cassette
3-New front wheel build
4-New derailleur/cassette (8 or 9 sp) and new rear brakes and pads.
I was originally planning on making this an ebike with a middrive or RC motor, but I'll hold off on that until I get to level 2 or 3 on the upgrade tree.
--update--
I just bought some components and tools for upgrades. They should arrive sometime in the next week or two.
- 2 bare 20" Araya Aero rims
- 1 laced 20" Araya Aero wheel
- 100 12mm 14G nipples
- 3 20" rim straps (rim tape alternatives)
- 1 Avid SD5 Linear pull brake
- 1 Avid FR5 brake lever
- A set of brake cables
- a chain breaker
- a 14G spoke wrench
I went to my LBS today and saw that a set of fenders for my 20" wheels are $44, I said like hell. I'll be making some fenders this weekend from some aluminium stock and some steel wire.
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Friday, February 10, 2012
2011 Gary Fisher Update
I managed to crash the bike on monday after a sharp turn at speed. The front wheel did a 180 and probably pinched. I think the rim is a bit bent, but other than that, the bike seems in good shape considering.
I basically went pavement surfing for a few feet underneath the bike with the gearing side facing the pavement. I'm surprised the derailleur hanger isn't bent. Chain lept off the gears, but that wasn't a problem to get back on.
The default tires are pretty easy to get on and off the rims, so fixing flats on the road won't be too bad.
Turns out my 15 minute crash course in tire repair 7 years ago stuck and the repair is good.
Anyway, banged up my knee and palm something fierce so I haven't ridden it since, but I'll be taking it to the LBS soon to get it checked out.
In other related news, I bought a Downtube Nova folding bike on Monday and it should get here by next week. I got the green version. Somehow I really like that color, even though I wouldn't buy anything else green if my life depended on it.
A review and comprehensive spec update soon.
I basically went pavement surfing for a few feet underneath the bike with the gearing side facing the pavement. I'm surprised the derailleur hanger isn't bent. Chain lept off the gears, but that wasn't a problem to get back on.
The default tires are pretty easy to get on and off the rims, so fixing flats on the road won't be too bad.
Turns out my 15 minute crash course in tire repair 7 years ago stuck and the repair is good.
Anyway, banged up my knee and palm something fierce so I haven't ridden it since, but I'll be taking it to the LBS soon to get it checked out.
In other related news, I bought a Downtube Nova folding bike on Monday and it should get here by next week. I got the green version. Somehow I really like that color, even though I wouldn't buy anything else green if my life depended on it.
A review and comprehensive spec update soon.
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